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I yell " there isn't much out there at the moment " ... and Ken yells " open your eyes, er, your ears dickhead " .... or something like that.... 
Anyway -- here is what is coming from TLE, and happily so ........
Orphaned Land / The Tale of OrWarrior --
This is MUCH more progressive, yet laid back than Mabool. The songs I heard were very surreal, melodic, and somewhat heavy. The fact that its a 1-hr long concept disc makes this over the top for me already. I can't wait to sit down with this one and read along with the story.
Myrath / Desert Calls --
From what I read, lots of people aren't digging the singer, which means that I probably won't. However - seeing Sir Exar compare this to "Holy Land" makes this a " have to buy anyway disc ". Dave's post on it encourages me as well.
Aspera / Ripples --
This is right up my alley.
Mob Rules / Radical Peace --
Glenn says "dude, if there is one power metal disc you buy this year, make it this one". Done deal. Stevie's post on some QR-ian melodies stokes me even more.
Red Circuit / Homeland --
Thanks to Chity, I got to hear the whole thing ahead of time. I want the disc. I can't say enough how cool this disc is, and to me, much better than the debut. Again, this like Chity fronting Threshold "Dead Reckoning".
The Dust Connection --
Haven't heard a note. Was able to, but decided not to. I have enough confidence in Martijn that this is going to be my thing.
Riverside / new DVD --
Nothing to say about this except, I'm getting the Rum / Diet Coke out for this one. One of my most anticipated DVDs ever, even if I don't like the last CD they put out.
Really looking forward to this batch for sure ....... !!!!!!!
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Aspera... I listened to this once today. I'm not a fan right away. Their sound is fine, the singer is good, but the songwriting is not there for me. It lacks memorable moments. A few good riffs, a few good instrumental sections, a couple okay vocal melodies, but its weak in this increasingly popular sub-genre.
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I had to grab the new The Dust Collection and Myrath myself. I loved TDC's sampler release and have high hopes for Trails. You guys talking about Myrath adding Middle Eastern influences to their music has my interest peeked. I love it when bands do this. Its a huge reason why I'm into groups like Il Nino. Even if this release doesn't live up to the Holy Land hype, I should probably still like it. 
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Trails is very, very good. It might even be great at some point. I haven't given it the dedicated time to completely absorb it so keep that in mind as you read this. The one thing I can pick out that might be jarring is the disconnect from music and vocals. It's subtle, but it seems like, at times, the singing doesn't match up with the arrangements. Kinda like Mischa Mang didn't jive completely with Ivanhoe. This album is far beyond that one though.
Good songs all over here. I'm glad I read this post. I'll have to take this to work tomorrow and jam while I do do morning paprework.
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I don't care for the latest Myrath singer, but they didn't do him any favors burying him in the mix. I do prefer the former singer .. seemed to be a stronger singer with more upside.
Much like the debut the new Red Circuit is also a winner. Back to back excellent discs ... really fills that Vanden Plas void for me.
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| Ty Kwando wrote: | I don't care for the latest Myrath singer, but they didn't do him any favors burying him in the mix. I do prefer the former singer .. seemed to be a stronger singer with more upside.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:41 pm Post subject: Re: On the way from The Lasers Edge ....... |
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| LarryD wrote: | I yell " there isn't much out there at the moment " ... and Ken yells " open your eyes, er, your ears dickhead " .... or something like that....
Anyway -- here is what is coming from TLE, and happily so ........
Orphaned Land / The Tale of OrWarrior --
This is MUCH more progressive, yet laid back than Mabool. The songs I heard were very surreal, melodic, and somewhat heavy. The fact that its a 1-hr long concept disc makes this over the top for me already. I can't wait to sit down with this one and read along with the story.
Myrath / Desert Calls --
From what I read, lots of people aren't digging the singer, which means that I probably won't. However - seeing Sir Exar compare this to "Holy Land" makes this a " have to buy anyway disc ". Dave's post on it encourages me as well.
Aspera / Ripples --
This is right up my alley.
Mob Rules / Radical Peace --
Glenn says "dude, if there is one power metal disc you buy this year, make it this one". Done deal. Stevie's post on some QR-ian melodies stokes me even more.
Red Circuit / Homeland --
Thanks to Chity, I got to hear the whole thing ahead of time. I want the disc. I can't say enough how cool this disc is, and to me, much better than the debut. Again, this like Chity fronting Threshold "Dead Reckoning".
The Dust Connection --
Haven't heard a note. Was able to, but decided not to. I have enough confidence in Martijn that this is going to be my thing.
Riverside / new DVD --
Nothing to say about this except, I'm getting the Rum / Diet Coke out for this one. One of my most anticipated DVDs ever, even if I don't like the last CD they put out.
Really looking forward to this batch for sure ....... !!!!!!! |
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| Quote: | I do prefer the former singer .. seemed to be a stronger singer with more upside.
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Well, he wasn't even a singer. It was the keyboardist, pressed into service because they were without a singer at the time of the recording. I think I prefer him too, but I think the new guy has more of an upside. If he would stick exclusively to the Western style and not do that Middle Eastern vibrato thing that he utilizes at times, he has potential. |
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| Quote: | | If he would stick exclusively to the Western style and not do that Middle Eastern vibrato thing that he utilizes at times, he has potential. |
I think that is what makes him distinct! I really like the warble he throws in now and then, as it adds to the cultural flair of the album.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:14 pm Post subject: Re: On the way from The Lasers Edge ....... |
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| Quote: | FUCK!
I got me the same cd's... (+ the dream evil),
i must be losing my taste!
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Another thing about that Myrath disc .... the volume is way low compared to what I think seems to be industry standards. Someone didn't get that volume level set right.
Unfortunately the volume issue, and the vox being buried are a couple issues that will probably keep me from ever really being able to get into ths one.
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You guys are off your tits. New Myrath singer is excellent and fits in fine. Best CD so far this year imo.
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Listening to new Orphaned Land right now. I love it. It started a little.. shakey as it felt like an extension of Mabool and I wasn't sure what I thought, but then it shifted into new, enjoyable, territory.
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You guys are killing me on the Myrath --- havent heard a note and I'm already skeptical just reading on here .... if there indeed a sound issue, I will not like it. I've already been warned about the singer, so shame on me if I don't like him ....
The Orphaned Land, on the other hand, is amazing and right up my alley.
A Progressive, Israeli, Melodic Death Metal band with little emphasis on the Death. Freakin awesome.
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| Quote: | | You guys are killing me on the Myrath --- havent heard a note and I'm already skeptical just reading on here .... if there indeed a sound issue, I will not like it. |
FWIW, I hear neither a volume issue, nor a mix issue. I think the production on the debut was a little cleaner, but there's nothing wrong with this one, to my ears. |
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I am listening to mp3's ... not sure where the original source came from. Maybe I've got an inferior rip of some sort, although I doubt that.
The volume is definately lower than most discs ... think Rage For Order .. as that was always a bit of an issue with that original disc, and then was fixed later after it was remastered. I also think the vox are buried too far back in the mix on this new Myrath.
Maybe someone can confirm some of that. Harv seemed to have an issue with it, but I'm not 100 percent sure he wasn't just agreeing that he didn't care for the new singer much.
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| Quote: | | The volume is definately lower than most discs ... think Rage For Order .. as that was always a bit of an issue with that original disc, and then was fixed later after it was remastered. I also think the vox are buried too far back in the mix on this new Myrath. |
Definitely no volume issues on the actual disc. Sound is great to my ears.
As for the singer, personally he sounds a little under-powered to me for the music. There are moments on the disc where the vocals sound a touch far back in the mix, but honestly I think it's more a matter of how he would sound live with the band that might concern me. He just doesn't sound STRONG enough to really power through the amount that is going on in the music.
This is totally an impression from the disc only, though, and live he could very well own the place. 
I still can't say enough good things about this disc. Tracks 1 through 5 in particular are nothing short of stellar.
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| Ty Kwando wrote: |
Maybe someone can confirm some of that. Harv seemed to have an issue with it, but I'm not 100 percent sure he wasn't just agreeing that he didn't care for the new singer much. |
I was commenting on the vocalist and his mix. He is not terrible, but I can't help but wish they would have gotten a new keyboardist instead. He sounded great.
As for the overall level, I did not notice as I just ripped it and put it on the pod for my first couple of spins.
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| Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:40 am Post subject: Re: On the way from The Lasers Edge ....... |
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| LarryD wrote: | I yell " there isn't much out there at the moment " ... and Ken yells " open your eyes, er, your ears dickhead " .... or something like that....
Anyway -- here is what is coming from TLE, and happily so ........
Orphaned Land / The Tale of OrWarrior --
This is MUCH more progressive, yet laid back than Mabool. The songs I heard were very surreal, melodic, and somewhat heavy. The fact that its a 1-hr long concept disc makes this over the top for me already. I can't wait to sit down with this one and read along with the story.
| Steve wrote: | | I tried and I tried to get into Mabool but it never clicked. I'll pass for this one too. |
Myrath / Desert Calls --
From what I read, lots of people aren't digging the singer, which means that I probably won't. However - seeing Sir Exar compare this to "Holy Land" makes this a " have to buy anyway disc ". Dave's post on it encourages me as well.
| Steve wrote: | | I somewhat liked the first one but I didn't know if I'd try the second one. The description some have of this one is enough for me to get it. In my next order. |
Aspera / Ripples --
This is right up my alley.
| Steve wrote: | | Just got it and it's an instant winner after half a spin. Classic progmetal with a big melodic side. |
Mob Rules / Radical Peace --
Glenn says "dude, if there is one power metal disc you buy this year, make it this one". Done deal. Stevie's post on some QR-ian melodies stokes me even more.
| Steve wrote: | | QR approach indeed but bear in mind this is power metal. The long epic track is awesome. |
Red Circuit / Homeland --
Thanks to Chity, I got to hear the whole thing ahead of time. I want the disc. I can't say enough how cool this disc is, and to me, much better than the debut. Again, this like Chity fronting Threshold "Dead Reckoning".
| Steve wrote: | | Wasn't sure of the first one but Dead Reckoning? I want to hear some. |
The Dust Connection --
Haven't heard a note. Was able to, but decided not to. I have enough confidence in Martijn that this is going to be my thing.
| Steve wrote: | | Also got it with the Aspera, I'll spin it tonight for sure. |
Riverside / new DVD --
Nothing to say about this except, I'm getting the Rum / Diet Coke out for this one. One of my most anticipated DVDs ever, even if I don't like the last CD they put out.
| Steve wrote: | | Such a great live band with cold songs lacking melodies after the first one. I'll pass... |
Really looking forward to this batch for sure ....... !!!!!!!
| Steve wrote: | | Real interested in reading your comments!!! Nice post bro!! |
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| I like the Red Circuit album. Nothing spectacular but very catchy. I really bought it just for Chity. I love his vocals. |
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| LarryD wrote: | You guys are killing me on the Myrath --- havent heard a note and I'm already skeptical just reading on here .... if there indeed a sound issue, I will not like it. I've already been warned about the singer, so shame on me if I don't like him ....
The Orphaned Land, on the other hand, is amazing and right up my alley.
A Progressive, Israeli, Melodic Death Metal band with little emphasis on the Death. Freakin awesome. |
You need not worry.
The singer is much better then the dude on the first album, from time to time he uses the standart arabic way of singing , it's called "lesalsel",it actually adds a great different curtain to the whole vibe.
In addition this album blows the mediocre debut outa of the watre!
It was a great surpsrise for me (along with the mob rules) ,
the guitars are much heavier , and there are great keys and arab string instrumets that add lots of progression to the SYX base, cool shit.
The production/mix ain't bad and won't be an issue on a good stereo.
It's not low , vice versa everything(especially the mids and highs) is up in the mix, something i do not like cause the peack clearness is lost (just like the last SUE).
The OL is the best thing they ever did.
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The Myrath & Dust Connection are from Lasers Edge as well as Shaman. Steelgar is from the band directly more power thrash & Holy Grail from The End.
Steelgar - Xenocide
Myrath - Desert Call
The Dust Connection - Trails
Shaman - Anime Alive 2008 DVD
Holy Grail - Improper Burial
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:25 am Post subject: Re: On the way from The Lasers Edge ....... |
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| LarryD wrote: | The Dust Connection --
Haven't heard a note. Was able to, but decided not to. I have enough confidence in Martijn that this is going to be my thing. |
I regard that as a big compliment Larry, hope it won't disappoint you
About the new Myrath, the songs on their myspace sound promising. I'm a sucker for those middle eastern influences, so I might order this one soon.
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| Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: On the way from The Lasers Edge ....... |
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| Martijn Balsters wrote: | | LarryD wrote: | The Dust Connection --
Haven't heard a note. Was able to, but decided not to. I have enough confidence in Martijn that this is going to be my thing. |
I regard that as a big compliment Larry, hope it won't disappoint you
About the new Myrath, the songs on their myspace sound promising. I'm a sucker for those middle eastern influences, so I might order this one soon.
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Hehe. No problem. I'm really loving the sound and style on Trails. I need further listens, but this is hitting all the right places for me.
I'm finding the Middle Eastern influences on the Myrath CD to be somewhat subdued. I was hoping for somehong a bit more out in front than what they've done. It's not that I don't find it enjoyable (I'm really digging this), but I expected something more. This also needs further listens.
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There is no volume issue with the Myrath for me. Right now I prefer the previous singer, though the new guy has grown on me over the last couple of spins.
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Well, sounds like most everyone likes the new Orphaned Land. Let me be the first to say I think it should be re-titled SNORwarriOR .. it's very boring in my opinion.
It's overly long for one thing with a lot of interludes which to me are just basically filler. What is it .. 80 minutes or so? I'm not sure I could come up with 30 worthwhile minutes on this one.
These are the kinds of discs where I am glad that I try before I buy. If I had plunked down $15 for this one I'd be angry with myself right now.
I guess the novelty flat wore off for me with these guys ... I loved Mabool.
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Now for a positive post ... I dig the new Rage - Strings To A Web .. disc.
It's kind of back to where they were with the Unity and Soundchaser stuff. They've cut way back on the orchestation stuff, which is a positive for me, but have really put forth an extremely catchy disc.
They haven't abandoned the Lingua Mortis all together as they are still featured in a four suite, 17 minute, stunner of a song called "Empty Hollow", which is located right in the middle of the disc. It's excellent, and seems to fit perfectly to me on this disc.
Anyway .. if the last couple of orchestra heavy discs kind of turned you away from Rage please try to give this one a listen. Peavey sounds really good on this one, and Victor Smolski just tears is up.
I'm pleasantly surprised with this one .. strong disc. It's been added to the "buy" list.
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| Ty Kwando wrote: | Now for a positive post ... I dig the new Rage - Strings To A Web .. disc.
It's kind of back to where they were with the Unity and Soundchaser stuff. They've cut way back on the orchestation stuff, which is a positive for me, but have really put forth an extremely catchy disc.
They haven't abandoned the Lingua Mortis all together as they are still featured in a four suite, 17 minute, stunner of a song called "Empty Hollow", which is located right in the middle of the disc. It's excellent, and seems to fit perfectly to me on this disc.
Anyway .. if the last couple of orchestra heavy discs kind of turned you away from Rage please try to give this one a listen. Peavey sounds really good on this one, and Victor Smolski just tears is up.
I'm pleasantly surprised with this one .. strong disc. It's been added to the "buy" list. |
I ordered digi CD/DVD last week for a price too much for most ($24). Should be here next week some time. Seeing as I couldn't wait that long and already paid for it, I downloaded it yesterday.
I'll agree that this is a great comeback after the last two so-so albums. Much more in the vein of Soundchaser/Unity simply because it flows so well. It doesn't sound like they were trying to create an album in a certain vein. Super catchy, really chunky and with killer production. Right on track with those two. |
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